CH Precision C1 dac - 一個不容忽視的超級旗艦級解碼！

feellikecyber

leoking 發表於 2014-2-5 19:06
多隻香爐多隻鬼, 總覺得加呢啲嘢有得亦有失, 這件可能是例外吧 ！

King Sir, 如果您吾介意.小弟送上皇宮比您了解下

leoking

feellikecyber 發表於 2014-2-5 20:15
King Sir, 如果您吾介意.小弟送上皇宮比您了解下

Cyber hing

不如你在這裡講下點work, 內部結構丶點觧會work 先啦, 相信好多師兄對件產品遠多過小弟。師兄在另一個post介紹時曾提過transport 要浄身， 是否指要摩機？ 將來賣返個transport 出去時會否增添麻煩？

feellikecyber

leoking 發表於 2014-2-5 20:37
Cyber hing

不如你在這裡講下點work, 內部結構丶點觧會work 先啦, 相信好多師兄對件產品遠多過小弟。師 ...

首先同樓主CK兄講聲吾好意思小弟多了點題外話.

King Sir, 小弟在另一邊回覆您

petertang88

foxtan 發表於 2014-2-5 19:02
There are at least two factors............. the jitter and clock issue........

foxtan師兄，

But jitter and clock issue exist in both CD & CAS, so I just assume they are not the factors that affect the performance between CAS & CD.

Are you suggesting that in either CAS or CD system, these effect have different impact on sound quality?

kahw

Since i am playing three systems at the same time.
I found out one thing.
it is all about the recording.

before 80s, best recording is vinyl.
80s-00, best recording is CD and some LP in early 80s
then after 2010, they are all digitized. even CD or LP, i will buy HD files.
Still buy LP for new release sometime just because want to listen the music, the chemical,  from your TT system only.

kahw

Just share with you guys
http://www.lampizator.eu/lampiza ... _transport_DIY.html
i think we are away from the topic.

but even though i know the truth in transport, i still love my coloured transport and DAC.
Who cares. Just have fun and listen good music.

foxtan

petertang88 發表於 2014-2-5 21:36
foxtan師兄，

But jitter and clock issue exist in both CD & CAS, so I just assume they are not the ...

Red book CD media have been used for Audio purpose more than three decade, engineer and manufacturer had solved many puzzle and developed many technology to cope with those jitter and clock issue. However, CAS or FAS for HiFi purpose just being popular in these recent years, and there is no any universal standard(or anything close to "standard") and protocol for both hardware manufacturer, engineer, software programmer to follow during the development process. The Jitter and clock issue of the hardware, software is much much more complicated in CAS or FAS unless the fundamental standard or at least a skeleton being established.

Raymondcheng888

真期望聽到一個DAC/CAS大比拼。

petertang88

foxtan 發表於 2014-2-6 02:35
Red book CD media have been used for Audio purpose more than three decade, engineer and manufactur ...

Thank you!

chowhwk

CKK ,

謝謝分享。
數碼產品日新月異，又有猛料到?
是否打算從MSB 過檔？

CKKeung

chowhwk 發表於 2014-2-8 11:21
CKK ,

謝謝分享。

No la.  Please check pm.  

hiendmaster

聽講CH Precision係WEISS學生

Cyrustam

比拼到四部已很難得了

leoking

hiendmaster 發表於 2014-2-8 16:22
聽講CH Precision係WEISS學生

真是青出於蓝！

CKKeung

hiendmaster 發表於 2014-2-8 16:22
聽講CH Precision係WEISS學生

No, they are not.

Florian Cossy and Thierry Heeb of CH Precision were employed by Goldmund once they graduated from universities in Switzerland.  When Florian had different ideas with and not accepted by Michel Reverchon, boss of Goldmund, C & H left Goldmund and established Anagrams in 1999.
In 2005 C&H splitted and sold Anagram and then established CH Precision in 2009.

Daniel Weiss belongs to an earlier generation.  He was previously in Studer, building professional recording machines.  He established Weiss in 1980s (maybe 1984).

eddiey4k

CeLicA 發表於 2014-2-5 14:01
好多時聽人話Cas/Streamer可以勝過CD transport測試都用上Hi-res files vs CD作為對比.
比較方式似反映fi ...

Good point. File format can be important. I am using a pretty good DAC + transport. But from what I heard in some rooms using master tapes in hifi shows in Britain, there would be no way any transport getting close to it. The amount of details was way enough to offset the differences in quality in other equipment including amplifiers, speakers etc.

7500martin

CKKeung 發表於 2014-2-9 12:44
No, they are not.

Florian Cossy and Thierry Heeb of CH Precision were employed by Goldmund once t ...

Goldmund老闆發掘人材真係一流！但大部份同佢合作完都係冇人贊好！

leoking

Cyrustam 發表於 2014-2-9 11:50
比拼到四部已很難得了

確實是很難！ 各路師兄俾不同意見、包括盲試器材，用意雖好，但屬尋求最高CP值丶而偏離"顶級數碼系統比併"呢個原意, 誰不想做擊倒巨人的大衞, 但都要有巨人肯出現!

細tec

睇來這次最強的比試應不能成事了。可惜...

nickif

Any ching can share the experience of using the C1 as a streamer? can ethernet really KO transport?