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 樓主| 發表於 2014-2-1 16:18:47 | 顯示全部樓層
nicknick 發表於 2014-2-1 14:48
問過代理,話冇新款喎,唔知真定假;
不過會有新firmware,可以播DSD,詳情未知。 ...

Last year, my friend directly asked dCS about upgrading the USB input of his Paganini Upsampler to become DoP-DSD capable and the following is the email answer from dCS :

" ... Hello XXX,

I hope that you are enjoying your Paganini system.

We are in the process of developing updates to our current range to add single AES or SPDIF 24/192 capability to the DACs and Upsamplers, and decoding for DSD in DoP format to the DACs. The Paganini Upsampler and DAC on the list for new software, we hope to have these ready for release over the summer.

DoP is DSD data re-packaged into a 24/176.4 data stream - the data is still DSD, it has not been converted to PCM.

Unfortunately, we are unable to upgrade the USB interface in the Paganini Upsampler to handle 24/176.4 or 24/192 because it requires a chip which is no longer being made.

Instead, we will upgrade the Paganini Master Clock to add an asynchronous 24/192 USB-to-SPDIF converter. This will be able to either drive the DAC directly or via the Upsampler, once the new software is ready.

Please check with Radar in June for progress on these updates.

Best regards,
Martin Reynolds
Technical Support Manager, Data Conversion Systems Ltd,
Registered office: Unit 1, Buckingway Business Park, Anderson Road, Swavesey, Cambridge CB24 4AE UK.
Tel: +44 (0)1954 233950  Direct: +44 (0)1954 233957  Fax: +44 (0)1954 233951
... "

Radar should have the latest update on this upgrade from dCS now.

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發表於 2014-2-1 16:54:50 | 顯示全部樓層
CKKeung 發表於 2014-1-29 07:41
foxtan兄,
MSB, dCS 及 CH Precision 都是小弟喜歡的 digital frontends。它們音質音效的取向頗異,但同 ...

CKKeung 兄,
我用緊的前級正是與你的一樣,都是ARC Ref. 40 Annevesary,我最近才發現一個問題,不知是否我部機出事,還是原本就是這樣而不朽無發覺?
請問你的前級當Balance 扭到極右的時侯,左邊喇叭會不會有少少聲,還是完全無聲的?反之,相反聲道亦是一様?煩請賜覆。
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發表於 2014-2-1 17:07:25 | 顯示全部樓層
阿鐵 發表於 2014-2-1 16:10
nick兄,一於瞓身買部番黎,dCS算有良心,今次upgarde令到所有產品與時並進,跟貼潮流,你睇其他品牌,根本 ...

我是沒有頭髮的癩痢!  
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發表於 2014-2-1 17:19:35 | 顯示全部樓層
本帖最後由 bergkamp0828 於 2014-2-1 17:22 編輯

dCS自debussy以上的model大部份已對應DoP. Scarlatti用的是"Vivaldi Mode", 可用dual AES直解DSD或升頻至DXD or DSD, 播放DSD以後不需再用IEE1394了....
相信Paganini會採用類似的方式.

dCS、無償アップデートサービス開始!!DoP対応へ。

Scarlatti DAC: 新ファームウェア Ver.1.30
・シングルデジタル入力(AES/EBU、RCA、BNC): シングルワイヤーにてDSD(DoP)入力対応
・デュアルデジタル入力(AES/EBU×2): 352.8kHz・384kHz・DSD(DoP・dCS方式)入力対応

Scarlatti Transport: 新ファームウェア Ver.1.11
・Vivaldiモード追加(AES/EBU×2にてVivaldi DACへDSDデーターを出力可能)

Scarlatti Upsampler: 新ファームウェア Ver.1.20

Puccini: 新ファームウェア Ver.1.40
・DAC部にDoPデコードソフトを追加。
・デジタル入力:192kHz/24bit対応化

Debussy DAC: 新ファームウェアVer.2.10
・USB入力:DSD(DoP)入力対応
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 樓主| 發表於 2014-2-1 17:37:38 | 顯示全部樓層
Hififriend 發表於 2014-2-1 16:54
CKKeung 兄,
我用緊的前級正是與你的一樣,都是ARC Ref. 40 Annevesary,我最近才發現一個問題,不知是 ...

Hififriend hing,
Just tested my ARC 40 preamp : there is no sound from the right speaker if I set the "balance" all the way to left side and vice versa.
My system is full-balanced from frontend to poweramp.
May be single-end connection is diff.  Pls check.


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 樓主| 發表於 2014-2-1 17:40:26 | 顯示全部樓層
bergkamp0828 發表於 2014-2-1 17:19
dCS自debussy以上的model大部份已對應DoP. Scarlatti用的是"Vivaldi Mode", 可用dual AES直解DSD或升頻至DX ...

bergkamp0828 hing,
I have also read this Japanese dCS anouncement too.
So most of the dCS owners except those of Paganini are lucky and happy.
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發表於 2014-2-1 17:47:48 | 顯示全部樓層
CKKeung 發表於 2014-2-1 17:40
bergkamp0828 hing,
I have also read this Japanese dCS anouncement too.
So most of the dCS owners e ...

唔會因為Paganini搞唔掂所以大平賣掛?
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 樓主| 發表於 2014-2-1 18:01:31 | 顯示全部樓層
bergkamp0828 發表於 2014-2-1 17:47
唔會因為Paganini搞唔掂所以大平賣掛?


其實 Paganini dac+upsampler 十分靚聲!
只是如果是要非玩 DSD files不可的話,則要購入Paganini Clock 作DoP輸入。
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發表於 2014-2-1 18:54:42 | 顯示全部樓層
CKKeung 發表於 2014-2-1 17:37
Hififriend hing,
Just tested my ARC 40 preamp : there is no sound from the right speaker if I set  ...

CKKeung hing,
Thank you for your swift reply. Mine is also full-balanced connection from front end to the power amp. However, I can hear a very low level music signal at the channel where it should be no sound corresponding to the balance setting. Anyway, I will check again. Thanks.
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發表於 2014-2-1 20:34:33 | 顯示全部樓層
Would there be any slight concession on package price of 138k in normal practice ?
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發表於 2014-2-1 22:05:31 | 顯示全部樓層
CKKeung 發表於 2014-2-1 17:37
Hififriend hing,
Just tested my ARC 40 preamp : there is no sound from the right speaker if I set  ...

Dear CKKeung Hing,
Can you try it again by using a higher output level to see if the situation remains the same? It is because I found that when listening in low volumn, the right channel speaker is totally silent as you said when the balance knob is turned all the way to the left, but when I turned the volumn to a higher level, I started to hear sound output from the speaker. Please help me to clarify if there is something wrong in my preamp. Many thanks!
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 樓主| 發表於 2014-2-1 22:17:42 | 顯示全部樓層
Hififriend 發表於 2014-2-1 22:05
Dear CKKeung Hing,
Can you try it again by using a higher output level to see if the situation rem ...

No problem, but will do it in daytime.  
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發表於 2014-2-1 23:08:29 | 顯示全部樓層
CKKeung 發表於 2014-2-1 22:17
No problem, but will do it in daytime.

Thank you
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發表於 2014-2-2 13:12:45 | 顯示全部樓層
CKKeung Hing,
One more thing, please also help to check the balance effect for playing music in MONO mode. I found that the music signal will NOT go left and right when I turn the Balance Knob. Thank you in advance.
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發表於 2014-2-2 23:11:47 | 顯示全部樓層
Hififriend 發表於 2014-2-1 16:54
CKKeung 兄,
我用緊的前級正是與你的一樣,都是ARC Ref. 40 Annevesary,我最近才發現一個問題,不知是 ...

That may be channel cross talk.   Does your manual specify how many dB signal to noise ratio for the cross talk?

In the old days, amplifier with more than one source playing simultaneously can hear a little sound (which is quite strange) from another source too.
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發表於 2014-2-3 00:47:57 | 顯示全部樓層
ccscho Hing,
The crosstalk shown in the manual is -80dB or better at 1kHz, but I don't think this is a crosstalk issue cos I do not have multiple sources playing simultaneously.
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發表於 2014-2-13 01:18:59 | 顯示全部樓層
剛發現dCS Website重開,而Paganini software version 1.3 - Adds DSD in DoP format capability to AES and SPDIF inputs.
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 樓主| 發表於 2014-2-13 09:37:08 | 顯示全部樓層
Bei_Hillgrover 發表於 2014-2-13 01:18
剛發現dCS Website重開,而Paganini software version 1.3 - Adds DSD in DoP format capability to AES an ...

Hi Bei_Hillgrover hing,

Paganini DAC having the 1.3 software does not mean that it can play DSD files with CAS.
Paganini DAC does not have USB input and it is usually connected to CAS computers through the Paganini Upsampler that has an USB input.

The problem is that the USB input of Paganini Upsampler can accept at most 24/96 data.
DSD files transmission by DoP format needs 24/176.4 transmission.

Therefore Paganini DAC cannot play DSD CAS unless you pair it up with a Scarletti Upsampler or Vivaldi Upsampler because the USB inputs of these two upsamplers can accept up to 24/192 data.

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發表於 2014-2-13 10:17:53 | 顯示全部樓層
Bei_Hillgrover 發表於 2014-2-13 01:18
剛發現dCS Website重開,而Paganini software version 1.3 - Adds DSD in DoP format capability to AES an ...

hi Bei_Hillgrover hing,
As CKK said, you might not be able to use the usb input. But there are some streamers (like Aurender  or Lumin) or SD player (QA660) that can output DoP DSD through AES/EBU.  
Cheers.
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 樓主| 發表於 2014-2-13 10:38:32 | 顯示全部樓層
k500a 發表於 2014-2-13 10:17
hi Bei_Hillgrover hing,
As CKK said, you might not be able to use the usb input. But there are som ...

Soundaware D100Pro can also output DSD DoP via S/PDIF (coaxial, AES).  
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