世界之初 Teac UD-501 x Muses01 Op-Amp x 終極改造 #194

obee

edhuen 發表於 2013-5-13 15:16
師兄, 謝謝, 那CuBox用什麼播放software? 可以用回TEAC原裝software嗎?

詳情可睇呢度
http://www.hiendy.com/hififorum/ ... &extra=page%3D2

edhuen

obee 發表於 2013-5-13 17:25
詳情可睇呢度
http://www.hiendy.com/hififorum/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=50089&extra=page%3D2 ...

It seems complicated, let me spend some time on this. Thanks a lot!

edhuen

obee 發表於 2013-5-13 17:25
詳情可睇呢度
http://www.hiendy.com/hififorum/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=50089&extra=page%3D2 ...

C-hing the Cubox is ordered from solid-run website directly?

bigjohnx

obee 發表於 2013-5-13 13:32
好似MAN301 咁, 只係個software 係最貴.
從來DIY係最平, 如果識得自己做.
人地Synology花左好多時間金錢 ...

因為GNU 關係.

裏面除左佢既logo 外, 大部份都唔係佢自己做出黎, 如ftp, samba , linux 等....那些都係under GNU License 以 OpenSource 形式發行.

所以佢一定要跟 GNU License 規定, 將所修改既code 開源.

至於能否用到佢做出黎既DSM, 就要看用家的本事.

bigjohnx

Jacky820 發表於 2013-5-13 15:21
Good! I am using the Cubox with Mytek toooo!
Sure, please post or PM your question to me. I will tr ...

Does Mytek can play DSD through DoP , or native mode?

The mytek driver is audio class 2.0 driver, or native mytek linux driver?

obee

bigjohnx 發表於 2013-5-13 19:56
Does Mytek can play DSD through DoP , or native mode?

The mytek driver is audio class 2.0 driver, ...

http://www.computeraudiophile.co ... o192-dsd-dac-14186/

It's based on the USB2 driver for the Terratec 6Fire currently available in the kernel. I have adapted it to work with the Mytek.

obee

edhuen 發表於 2013-5-13 18:18
C-hing the Cubox is ordered from solid-run website directly?

Yes
Better group order as the shipment cost is quite high. Two cubox at least and share the shipment cost is preferred.

iwantbd

obee 發表於 2013-5-13 15:04
Cubox 只係一部行linux的電腦，我地用ipad去控制播放

師兄！



多謝分享！

iwantbd

ilccmcf 發表於 2013-5-13 00:00
試完CUBOX
入定隻好既NAS先.....

我想跟！，

bigjohnx

iwantbd 發表於 2013-5-13 20:31
我想跟！，

gogogo la ching

搵埋樓上幾層既ching 自組二人團la.

bigjohnx

obee 發表於 2013-5-13 20:08
http://www.computeraudiophile.com/f11-software/linux-usb2-driver-mytek-stereo192-dsd-dac-14186/

...

Quite good...

But most thing of my concern is , running on DoP mode? or Direct DSD Mode?

iwantbd

bigjohnx 發表於 2013-5-13 20:53
gogogo la ching

搵埋樓上幾層既ching 自組二人團la.

你好！！


Thx!

obee

bigjohnx 發表於 2013-5-13 20:54
Quite good...

But most thing of my concern is , running on DoP mode? or Direct DSD Mode?

應該係DoP.

bigjohnx

obee 發表於 2013-5-13 21:29
應該係DoP.

我朋友講過, 佢係windows 下行Jriver, Dop 會比Native DSD 差, 同樣情況係Teac UD-501 出現.

但CuBox 能令 Dop 及 Native mode 既差距減少好多. 質數好接近.

obee

bigjohnx 發表於 2013-5-13 21:40
我朋友講過, 佢係windows 下行Jriver, Dop 會比Native DSD 差, 同樣情況係Teac UD-501 出現.

但CuBox 能 ...

DoP 同 Native 只係兩個唔同的 implantation. 只要係 implantation 就可以有唔同 (好似簡單如煎隻太陽蛋都可以人人唔同), DoP 始終係新技術, 過多一兩年, 當愈來愈多支援 DoP 在 Windows 同 MacOSX 上, 咁就唔會再有所謂 DoP versus Native. 你估做 driver 的好得閒咩, 做兩個版本只係因為 DoP 還未夠成效.

bigjohnx

obee 發表於 2013-5-13 21:44
DoP 同 Native 只係兩個唔同的 implantation. 只要係 implantation 就可以有唔同 (好似簡單如煎隻太陽蛋 ...

始終Dop 涉及 PCM Frame 既transcode, 係某程度上對 Dac 接收既DSP 構成一定壓力. 當然, 我唔排除有D DAC 會做得好D. 但Teac 就親耳聽到有分別. Mytek 就從朋友口中所說有分別. 或者有天這個技術成熟, 有Chip 令硬件直接支援兩種Format 入 I2S, 屈時就會有更好的效能.

同意Dop 是新技術, 而且係業界(非P & S 公司) 自發做出來的新標準, 需要巿場受落及消化. 希望未來會有新chip 對這方面有更好支持及方案.

obee

就好似 e-mail 係 Internet 嘅 killer app (Internet 因為 email 多人用而興起)
itunes 係 iPod 嘅 killer app (iPod 因為有 itunes 的強大音樂平台先在MP3機中跑出)
DoP 就係 DSD 嘅 killer app, DSD 有左十幾年, 但因為 DoP 而吸引 DAC 生產商出可播 DSD 的 DAC.

咁, 其實你地所謂嘅 "native mode" 都係經條 USB 線過, 如何可不用 DoP? (佢要自己發展一套傳輸方式? 豈不十分費功夫?) 如果不用 DoP 又可經 USB 播 DSD, 咁點解幾年前唔出? 要等有 DoP 出先出埋所謂嘅 "native mode"?? 大家有無諗過呢個問題呢?

bigjohnx

obee 發表於 2013-5-13 21:54
就好似 e-mail 係 Internet 嘅 killer app (Internet 因為 email 多人用而興起)
itunes 係 iPod 嘅 killer  ...

涉及這範圍我就不太清楚了, 除非有詳細文件規格兩者有所不同, 否則沒法知道真相.

現在的都只是用耳朵去分辨, 是有點唔夠科學化但確實能感受到.

而上次在樓主家中使用cubox及native 比較後, 結果有些人覺得CuBox + Dop 好D, 有人覺得用teac player + native 好D, 沒有絕對定論. 我唸其實只要自己耳仔收貨, 就無問題.

Jacky820

I am using Cubox Pro with mytek 192... so far so good!

bigjohnx

Let me try to borrow mytek later after get the cubox.