MBL 7008 vs Accuphase E460 (Cremona M)

billy997

各位ching,
想請教 7008 vs E460, 唔計佢地幾錢 (其實好接近, 只係E460會保值多少少), 夾 Sonus Faber Cremona M 理論上夾唔夾得來? 有冇咩經驗可以教下小弟?
我都會去試聽 AB 比較, 不過冇可能有埋 sonus faber 比我試, 我怕返左屋企效果有好大出入. Thanks.

supercow

7008A 己經出左啦.

billy997

真的? 可能還未到港, 今天去代理未見... 等我找找資料

ROA

7008/7008A最好匹配原廠喇叭，音場闊度會好些，表現亦較出色。

billy997

Hi ROA, thanks for your advice. I also learnt from ching that MBL is the best for its own set. But not sure if it means if not going with MBL CD & speakers, it will be worse than other same grade amplifer.

cyberken

亦可以考慮luxman 509u, 音場撐得好闊，damp 到個低絕對唔肥！

billy997

冇 remote

cyberken

billy997 發表於 2012-2-9 19:50
冇 remote

chinovince

mbl 7008 - MBL of America


Accuphase E-460 Amplify

royhing

夾易推版的SF，建議E460，穩陣啲，夾喇叭係要講匹配

billy997

易推版=?


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royhing

新一代cremona m雖唔至於好易推，亦已比上代cremona易推左
有地方玩座地，唔玩前後級？

royhing

覺得咁樣，SF兩隻字已經話俾大家聽係播人聲和弦樂
7008好似幾夾，但又怕合併仔控唔好4隻SF單元，唔好諗
460聲底嬌嫡嫡，聽女聲係幾lum，但弦樂古典唔係金仔果範
460起碼仲有把人聲聽，所以夾460我估穩陣少少

stephen2k

royhing 發表於 2012-2-9 22:45
覺得咁樣，SF兩隻字已經話俾大家聽係播人聲和弦樂
7008好似幾夾，但又怕合併仔控唔好4隻SF單元，唔好諗
460 ...

royhing,講爆你估邊個好d呢

ROA

billy997 發表於 2012-2-9 19:17
Hi ROA, thanks for your advice. I also learnt from ching that MBL is the best for its own set. But n ...

7008推動力雄渾，惜其音場設定純爲原廠喇叭的特性而開發，若匹配其它品牌喇叭，音場有明顯的壓縮現象，同場有另一部其它牌子的Amp，推同一對喇叭比較便知曉問題所在。

但若7008匹配原廠喇叭卻有天淵之別，音場如環繞聲，極盡音效之能事，所以玩mbl不玩一套，跟本發揮不到其精粹。
玩Accuphase的話，最好揀選2008年或之後出產的model，中性生動，古典流行皆宜，匹配性亦強；不過，其實推Cremona M，很多牌子也可以，好選擇還真不少呢！

意見歸意見，人人喜好不盡相同，親身多作家訪最實際。

billy997

Thanks all Ching. Seems accuphase is a safe choice. MBL has high damping factor, design is also for large current (Cremona M is 4 ohms). Seems the control has better 保證. But of course have to test to verify.

Also other factor is, MBL is getting very cheap now. Years back it was 45000-50000 for quite some time, some ppl even said MBL is higher class ( although I doubt). Now accuphase price up every year, MBL price down to under 40k now. This one factor also make me take a closer look with MBL. Now seems 抵用.


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royhing

始終買E460聲音保險。
7008為自家喇叭而生，小弟前後用過兩部7008，第一部推dyna s1.4係不過不失。最終7008係歐洲高價產業其中一部合併機仔，香港代理賣平口的給大家一嘗亦唔會對公司業務有大影響，還可以留一個前後級遠景給大家，一個廠商招牌作始終唔會係一都初階合併機，很多人用一部合併機判斷一個品牌的聲音質素，無疑自我掘井望天，相信用6010D+9011會少了些投訴。
Accuphase市場策略做得好成功，照顧到眾多普羅大眾心理，合併機年年推陳出新，再分高中低價錢各適其式，加上一年加兩次價的例行方針，營造早買早享受的氣氛，只要今天買，半年後離場或可能平手而回。mbl縱使聲音做得如何再好，對象始終係最高階消費層，好像希望用大發仔價錢買到保時捷享受係好難，唔多做廣告，唔多加價，高階又唔平，平民百姓好難玩

一休大師

33二手區有部7008，不如試左先啦！因為如果試460又要買新，二手又一閃即逝，唔啱嘰話都幾傷.....

MetalNuts

既然这里很多师兄都用金仔夹SF,甚至直程係４６０夹Cremona 呢！无听到投诉啊！而小弟尚未成仙归位，仍只是凡夫俗子一个，那隋波逐流是必然！

所以如果有合适价钱二手Cremona, 我都会试试！唔好抢高D价钱！

micmic123

e460好d
推SF 喇叭7008都輸俾我的bow wazoo xl ......但平佢好多.....