NBS vs Kharma

wutsup

I want to get Kharma supreme ref, any ching compare it with NBS PC or speaker cable?

my base is kind of tight, and I feel the power is kind of weak with current set up
High extension is ok but I feel the depth is not good enough.

any ching can give me a help?

thanks!!

CeLicA

新機比D耐性run-in多1,2百hrs先

starhifi

Kharma's bass sure can't win NBS and also the speed is rather slow. I compare supreme with nbs OMEGA i and Kharma is not my cup of tea.

tamm

starhifi 發表於 2012-2-12 11:21
Kharma's bass sure can't win NBS and also the speed is rather slow. I compare supreme with nbs OMEGA ...

  If u go for the grand ref. thats another story !

ChoiChoi

買個isotek Titan G2 比後級啦。

eddiey4k

>> my base is kind of tight, and I feel the power is kind of weak with current set up<<
Think CHing has AV amp and JF for 2 channels. Both showing tight bass?

wutsup

eddiey4k 發表於 2012-2-12 22:48
>> my base is kind of tight, and I feel the power is kind of weak with current set up

Haven't try AV yet as i still have ground loop problem yet to solve..

But about stereo, I use original cable from JF, I feel JF has better control on my speaker (compare to my previous amp), but I can't feel any power or hard punch from the speaker anymore.  It's rather tight, feel 勒住﹐勒住 and not enough 下潛力.   

Very clean, but dry now.

I want to know if i choose kharma supreme, which model of NBS should I compare, in terms of price range.  
I want to get more 音樂感﹐有反D低音﹐但唔係要蒙﹐立體感﹐分析力可能未必同時得﹐但有提升都OK


thx everyone!!

wutsup

But in terms of my need, kharma SP is better or nbs omega 2

And which device I should put the cable to
Pre or power?  As I need 20A for powrr

eddiey4k

Haven't auditioned Kharma cables. But agree that NBS has bass, in general. Good to try it out first.  

wutsup

Just borrow SR and test in dealer in Mk

Because it's 20A, the dealer can only compare
Black label plus
Cardas clear beyond ( new and run for 2 hrs only)
Kharma SR (friend bought jor 1 week, 10-20 hrs only)

Black label 有bass，唔肥有力, 分析力超正，lay back, 音樂感濃
Cardas maybe not yet run in, bass 有d太乾淨唔夠power，分析力唔錯，但比black label 朦, overall clean and clear character
Kharma, 立體感好勁，但有D太突，衝前左D,分析力只係無black label 咁乾淨同收身，但收貨bass動感也很強，立樂感包圍感不比black label差很多，只硬左d

Dealer using JF cours + 625 + aries, same as my setup

For 6000-7000 budget, ok worth compare to black label plus
Too bad canr try omega 1 or 2, but dealer said it's more musical will be more 濃 compare to black label plus

wutsup

brkkh 發表於 2012-2-13 16:40
NBS really quite matches with JR. It gives speed, punch and solid.
Have tried SR with my JR, full of ...

Thx Ching.  It's 20 or 15a?

CeLicA

wutsup 發表於 2012-2-13 19:12
Just borrow SR and test in dealer in Mk

Because it's 20A, the dealer can only compare

你Aries dac,咁source係乜

wutsup

CD player, as transport now, not yet upgrade.

CeLicA

wutsup 發表於 2012-2-13 20:16
CD player, as transport now, not yet upgrade.

咁乜CDP?
問題好有可能係CDP唔係cable wor.

天下第一刀

要陽極輸出的AMP才有力﹐但牛要重﹐沒有20KG的機不要買.  

關鍵字‘陽’﹗

CeLicA

天下第一刀 發表於 2012-2-13 20:35
要陽極輸出的AMP才有力﹐但牛要重﹐沒有20KG的機不要買.  

關鍵字‘陽’﹗ ...

wutsup

starhifi 發表於 2012-2-12 11:21
Kharma's bass sure can't win NBS and also the speed is rather slow. I compare supreme with nbs OMEGA ...

Omega 1 is almost 4-5k more than omega 2 or supreme ref
Slow is an issue, but kharma's musical performance is pretty tempting.

what if omega 1 vs grand ref?  Any ching tried?

Ppl kept saying 803d has good power in bass and it's rather fat, new version already solved and everything became silmer??  Because I don't have the "fat" feeling on my speaker.  

wutsup

CeLicA 發表於 2012-2-13 20:26
咁乜CDP?
問題好有可能係CDP唔係cable wor.

CDP is audia, and planning to get burmester 061 or 089 if really possible ($ issue)

just worry it would be a waste to get 089 as a transport.