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[CAS] ripe CD from 44.1 to 192 wav

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發表於 2013-2-12 23:43:08 | 顯示全部樓層 |閱讀模式
請問這樣ripe出來的文件,品質上真係會比較好嗎?但文件大好多倍。我試過用32 bit 192k ,抄過一首4分鐘的歌去到500M, 係原本44.1 16bitCD模式的20倍。如果原本CD只係16BIT 44.1, 理論用返這個設定不是最好嗎?因爲用程序加大個sampling,其實應該無效果。 請指教

發表於 2013-2-13 12:03:51 | 顯示全部樓層
From a pure digital signal processing point of view, it's impossible to create more information by upsampling, but it's entirely normal for upsampled music data to sound different -  could be better or worse depending on the following:
1. The upsampling process will always introduce a small amount of distortion. The distortion from the best upsampling algorithm may be negligible but still exist, whereas a cheap algorithm can introduce a non-negligible amount of distortion.
2. With an audio signal bandwidth limited at 22kHz, those with a higher sampling rate (say, at 192K instead of 44K) will allow the same DSP filter in the DAC to have a lower resulting noise, hence improving the signal-to-noise ratio.
3. If the SNR improvement at (2) is above the SNR degration introduced by upsampling then from an overall system point of view, the signal quality has improved.

In real life things get a little more complicated:
- You need a really clean and revealing system to enjoy the noise reduction at (2), at a setup where the noise floor is high, the noise reduction at (2) won't do much good.
- Even in a clean and revealing system, the reduced noise floor will expose deficiencies at other parts of the audio setup, and some may perceived it as harsh or digital sound.
- The distortion introduced by upsampling may be considered by some as "taste". The high frequency noise introduced could give the perception of more high frequency details, more airy or even bigger sound stage.

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發表於 2013-2-13 23:02:15 | 顯示全部樓層
cwtim01 發表於 2013-2-13 12:03
From a pure digital signal processing point of view, it's impossible to create more information by u ...

十分贊同師兄最後的一句。就如一條魚,係幾新鮮就係幾新鮮,唔會因加左味精而令到條魚新鮮左。當然,有人喜歡食魚鮮,有人喜歡調左味既魚。不過小弟愚見,如要味精可從器材線材入手而源頭就原汁原味好啲。不同意勿插打頭

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發表於 2013-2-14 09:25:28 | 顯示全部樓層
jimmypkh 發表於 2013-2-13 23:02
十分贊同師兄最後的一句。就如一條魚,係幾新鮮就係幾新鮮,唔會因加左味精而令到條魚新鮮左。當然,有人 ...


我也十分贊同師兄的講法

不同意勿插打頭 X2
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 樓主| 發表於 2013-2-15 00:19:57 | 顯示全部樓層
甘即係大家都覺得在大部分器材狀態下,應該用16BIT 44.1 RIPE CD就最足夠啦?
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發表於 2013-2-15 07:47:15 | 顯示全部樓層
有好多時候將檔案升頻至192 , 聽感上很不自然 ....

播44.1 時由器材升頻跟用電腦把檔案升頻, 聽感上也有很大不同

有些器材升頻功能做得好, 出泥效果比未升頻時表現好上很多, 如密度, 動態對比等

升頻功能做得不好的, 升頻後聽感不自然, 唔用好過用.....
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