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[解碼器] MSB DAC IV plus is now shipping

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發表於 2013-4-13 23:38:37 | 顯示全部樓層 |閱讀模式
本帖最後由 ok102006 於 2013-4-13 23:42 編輯

-sign magnitude R2R ladder technology tea.gif
-4 x 26 bit Diamond DACs
-384 kHz 24 bit S/PDIF, 4 channel 384 kHz-32 bit MSB Network
-Femto 140 Clock in socket, upgradable to Galaxy Femtosecond Clock (extra US$9950 - jitter under 77 femtoseconds 0.077 psec)
-External Power Supply with upgraded diodes, capacitors, shielding, twice the power rating, with Diamond Power Link Cable
-Diamond Passive Attenuators with 1 db per step and improved shielding and isolation. From +9 to -69 db range. (1/2 or 1/4 db step size selected in menu)
-Aluminum MSB System remote included (operates DAC IV plus, DATA CD and iLink II)

Diamond DAC IV plus
US$27995
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Diamond Power Base
US$5995
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Also available Platinum DAC IV plus and Signature DAC IV plus DAC, all MSB DACs are now DSD ready!

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發表於 2013-4-14 01:27:36 | 顯示全部樓層
好機一部!
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發表於 2013-4-14 10:44:27 | 顯示全部樓層
天價機又一部
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發表於 2013-4-14 11:25:29 | 顯示全部樓層
看Spec 真的不錯,不過假如全套買要美金三萬四。
MSB 早年是走中等價錢路線,這一次進軍頂尖系統門檻,要看功力了。
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發表於 2013-4-14 12:29:51 | 顯示全部樓層
本帖最後由 haha12 於 2013-4-14 12:57 編輯

在 budget is no objection 前題下,暫時似乎 DCS 穩座龍頭,不過要有地方去擺呢4件DCS磚頭 喺香港都吾容易。
至於老二個位就競争劇烈囉, MSB 當屬大熱之一。小弟卻比較喜歡Emmlabs 頂班transport +DAC ,白淨靚仔又音樂演譯能力極高强,而且兩件頭西裝容易擺放嘛!

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發表於 2013-4-14 12:42:40 | 顯示全部樓層
haha12 發表於 2013-4-14 12:29
在 budget is no objection 前題下,暫時似乎 DCS 穩座龍頭,不過要有地方去擺呢4件DCS石頭 喺香港都吾容易 ...

師兄, EMMlabs套西裝正....不過要十幾個
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發表於 2013-4-14 12:53:57 | 顯示全部樓層
本帖最後由 haha12 於 2013-4-14 12:55 編輯
feellikecyber 發表於 2013-4-14 12:42
師兄, EMMlabs套西裝正....不過要十幾個


錢財身外物,富貴如浮雲。
有夢想自可成真。星期天發下夢得掛?

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發表於 2013-4-14 13:21:19 | 顯示全部樓層
haha12 發表於 2013-4-14 12:53
錢財身外物,富貴如浮雲。
有夢想自可成真。星期天發下夢得掛?

師兄啲佳句眞係無得頂
不過我個人比較喜歡MSB,不過EmmLab先有啲較大眾化嘅機種,MSB一去就DAC lV Plus,就連Platinum板加Power Base,最基本都七皮過外。
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發表於 2013-4-14 13:30:08 | 顯示全部樓層
haha12 發表於 2013-4-14 12:53
錢財身外物,富貴如浮雲。
有夢想自可成真。星期天發下夢得掛?

Sweet Dream.....
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發表於 2013-4-15 01:19:51 | 顯示全部樓層
MSB 又「好彩」不啱我口味,免得我破大財!
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發表於 2013-4-15 11:04:17 | 顯示全部樓層
msb 的新版是比舊的靜了好多.  但我比較不喜歡的是新的MSB dac iv plus 的 ProI2S (network interface),  與舊的 MSB Network 不兼容.. 連不上 MSB 的DATA IV 與UMT transport, 應該兩者都有.  不用買optional interfance card

cheers!
blau
  
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發表於 2013-4-15 22:13:40 | 顯示全部樓層
此毒物都係不聽為妙!
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 樓主| 發表於 2013-4-15 22:20:18 | 顯示全部樓層
I wonder if remove the 4 metal feet from the MSB Diamond+ DAC and use 4 Harmonix TU-666M tuning feet instead, what will happen ...

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發表於 2013-4-16 03:48:19 | 顯示全部樓層
blau.vol 發表於 2013-4-14 22:04
msb 的新版是比舊的靜了好多.  但我比較不喜歡的是新的MSB dac iv plus 的 ProI2S (network interface),   ...

Dear Ben,
Did you mean the Data Transport IV and UMT can only connect to MSB network instead of I2S which will only be for UMT Plus and Signature Data CD IV ?

Best regards,
Frederick
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發表於 2013-4-16 08:13:38 | 顯示全部樓層
ok102006 發表於 2013-4-15 22:20
I wonder if remove the 4 metal feet from the MSB Diamond+ DAC and use 4 Harmonix TU-666M tuning feet ...

ok102006 hing,

Yes, the original 4 feet/spikes of MSB IV series dac give mediocre sound.
Ths under-surface of the dac is flat so we can use any better footers that we like.
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發表於 2013-4-16 08:24:42 | 顯示全部樓層
fredtam 發表於 2013-4-16 03:48
Dear Ben,
Did you mean the Data Transport IV and UMT can only connect to MSB network instead of I2 ...

Fred hing,
The old MSB Network is unidirectional but the new ProI2S Network is bidirectional.
Both the old or new network connections are better than other digital connection formats.
If pairing the Data4 or UMT ( that have only the old network onboard) with the new IV Plus dac, an optional network card has to be installed on the IV Plus dac.
Certainly, IV Plus dac is 100% compatible with the coming UMT Plus.

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發表於 2013-4-16 15:30:34 | 顯示全部樓層
,thank you CK hing

for sharing and answering the question.

DAC IV Plus works seamlessly with UMT + and DATA IV signature as all of them got ProI2S interface slot,  but DAC IVPlus need to install ProI2S card to work with OLD DATA IV (the one I have ) as data iv got MSB Network output only.

of course,  I tried the DATA IV with DAC IV Plus through coaxial and AES channel ,  it got NO problem for 16/44.1 up to 24/192 data.  but you want to use MSB own interface if you play with MSB.  the data ,data clock signal and word clock sync signal send between transport and DAC is in parallel manner and will not interfere with each other and not in series like coaxial.

so , it got  MORE detail normally for MSB DAC with MSB transport.


cheers!
Blau


   

  
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發表於 2013-4-16 15:33:17 | 顯示全部樓層
ok102006 發表於 2013-4-15 22:20
I wonder if remove the 4 metal feet from the MSB Diamond+ DAC and use 4 Harmonix TU-666M tuning feet ...

Hi ok102006 hing,

tried your spike!  I am not using MSB spike also  ,  I am using third party spike also and sound better.  .... should got better sound I believe with the one your suggested.

Cheers!
blau


  
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發表於 2013-4-16 21:04:19 | 顯示全部樓層
Thanks Peter and Ben.
As I was under the impression that the Signature Dac IV Plus comes with Pro I2S input instead of MSB network input, if I am going to use Data Transport (same as what you got) will it work with Pro I2S or I have to install MSB network ? This is what I got confused.
Looking forward to your advice.
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發表於 2013-4-17 00:26:34 | 顯示全部樓層
Fred hing,

yes, all DAC IV plus (no matter which version) come with ProI2S input,  for communicate with DATA IV ,  need to install MSB Network in the DAC IV Plus for communication in perfect manner.  

for communicating with UMT plus,  no need to add anything.  

cheers!
blau
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