Stealth Dream V12 有2粒製同無製D 聲既分別 ?

kei8864

Dream V12 PC除了有4合1 的版本外,
還有單一版本PRE, DIGITAL, POWER, WALL 的V12 版本,
有無師兄聽過多合一版本設定成PRE, DIGITAL, POWER, WALL 時,
和單一版本的V12 聲音上有什麼分別嗎 ?

kahw

single one is much much better.
AB compared.

robertnike

kahw 發表於 2014-1-7 22:48
single one is much much better.
AB compared.

kahw兄，可否詳細分享多d兩者既分別。

kahw

Okay!
it is hard to tell in writing.
but i will try my best.

i compared v10 digital and v10 pre with V12 universal one.
it seem like V12 universal version performance is an enhancement of the V10 series.
All slightly better than v10. and keep the same character.

but when i compare between V12 Uni and V12 digital.
V12 digital give a better tonal and balance in sound than the typical stealth that i know.
it fix some of problem of stealth digital in previous version. very transparent and detail but a little thin.
The stealth v12 digital give a clarity and transparent sound yet, give back some "meat" that it is missing in V12 Uni digital.
To me, V12 digital fit all the problems stealth digital used to have and is a brand new cable. V12 Uni is an enhancement of V10 only.
my two cents

robertnike

kahw 發表於 2014-1-13 00:59
Okay!
it is hard to tell in writing.
but i will try my best.

多謝kahw兄詳細回覆，我而家又了解多d

robertnike

你意思係V12 digital會多番d"meat" 肉地？

kahw

robertnike 發表於 2014-1-13 01:23
你意思係V12 digital會多番d"meat" 肉地？

robertnike

kahw hing,
想問清楚一樣野，你話 「V12 digital give a better tonal and balance in sound than the typical stealth that i know.
it fix some of problem of stealth digital in previous version. very transparent and detail but a little thin.」 咁"but a little thin"呢句係講V12 digital定V12 uni定previous digital version呢？

kahw

Haha
i mean V12 uni and v10 digital.
but don't get me wrong, V12 uni and V10 dream digital is still a very amazing cable.
i still using V10 digital for my DAC.
To explain further, need to go into detail.
i am a stealth lover, have been trying almost all their cable. from cheap to top model.
V10 digital and v12 uni is really an amazing cable, but it definitely will make your system "thinner", so you need to use their preamp and wall to give back the punch and meat back.
I did a experiment with my friend before, we used all stealth dream v10 for all cable. from SC to Power to all IC,  achieving the "virtual star grounding" as suggested by the website.
it actually give a very balance sound. especially you used all stealth dream series, the system will raise 10% more. almost noise bleeding detail.

When i compare V12 digital version with v12 uni and v10, i replaced all stealth cable will other brand. so i can really knowing the difference.
As i said, V12 digital give a very balance sound without the help of other stealth. it sound great on it own.
V12 uni and v10 dream need a little mix and match.

robertnike

kahw 發表於 2014-1-14 01:18
Haha
i mean V12 uni and v10 digital.
but don't get me wrong, V12 uni and V10 dream digital is still  ...

再次多謝kahw兄既詳細解答，咁我而家明日晒。其實我而家用緊V10 digital pc俾cdp，都一直有留意V12呢條pc，而家經帥兄既提點，方向明確好多，謝謝！

iceye2072

kahw 發表於 2014-1-14 01:18
Haha
i mean V12 uni and v10 digital.
but don't get me wrong, V12 uni and V10 dream digital is still  ...

Hi
i am seriously confused about what you said related to Dream PC V12 UNI and standard version.
because i think they are designed in same way so ought to performance equally good.However on the other hand,i kind understand what you have felt,since i have a lot experience about comparing cable as well. in general, you need more than once to compare them after you find the true difference. i am gonna to email those questions to stealth to help me find a conclusion.i sort of wish you share some more experience about that. it is indeed to give a chance to user about what he really needs.

thanks

iceye2072

This is what I got from stealth:

The Dream V12 UNI performance is exactly the same as Dream V12 standard – absolutely no difference.

Thank you

Serguei Timachev
Owner and Director of Engineering
STEALTH Audio Cables

sealteam4

iceye2072 發表於 2014-8-8 07:15
This is what I got from stealth:

The Dream V12 UNI performance is exactly the same as Dream V12 sta ...

定價上V12 uni 仲好像貴D，佢當然要咁講
實際就我真唔知

leoking

iceye2072 發表於 2014-8-8 07:15
This is what I got from stealth:

The Dream V12 UNI performance is exactly the same as Dream V12 sta ...

好想問吓佢既然冇分別、為何要出兩款來混淆視聽？

t1174

HAHA, 我至終也KEEP 了V10 PRE 比 HP AMP 用...2M 長先夠長, 冇計...
STD 版本其實真是好吹脤, 分晒 PRE,WALL, DIGITAL, PWR, 你可以說好FIT, 但其實各有問題, 比如V10 系, PRE 音色上低是缺失了, DIGITAL 出晒名冇力, WALL 就是粗粗聲的PRE, 比較正常可能是PWR 但沒太大特色.....UNI 就是比晒USER 自己 SELECT, 但多只香爐多只鬼(零件), 冇STD 咁"優化" 十分正常, 我個人想 UNI 同 PWR 應該比較接近.

iceye2072

leoking 發表於 2014-8-8 10:01
好想問吓佢既然冇分別、為何要出兩款來混淆視聽？

Actually they do not list them on sell at the same time. The standard version is the earlier v12 PC then come to Uni version. i think that is why there are two different version. also standard is cheaper. users who do not need this function can just purchase the standard.

leoking

iceye2072 發表於 2014-8-8 12:29
Actually they do not list them on sell at the same time. The standard version is the earlier v12 P ...

But why would they come out with a new cable of exactly the same performance?

iceye2072

For the varied uses,you can simply change tonality  by moving a special “magnetic field shorting” collar along the cable. It is designed for user who need this function. In practice they both named Dream v12 and have a similar price. Why would they should have difference in performance.

kahw

iceye2072 發表於 2014-8-7 23:26
Hi
i am seriously confused about what you said related to Dream PC V12 UNI and standard version.
...

I think it is confusing as well.
I actually were using all stealth v10 dream from speaker to power. And also Sakra for IC as well. Tried gs50 and Indra as well.
So I did have a lot of them to compare. I also want to experience stealth virtual star grounding theory as well. And it does work as well.
Of course, I know each character of them. All has strong and weak side.
If using all stealth in one system actually, help to balance out all the weakest. But only one thing is the lower bass, missing!!

When I compare v12 uni and v12 digital, I have both at the same time to ab.
And invited several stealth lover to listen as well.
And have this conclusion.

iceye2072

kahw 發表於 2014-8-9 16:38
I think it is confusing as well.
I actually were using all stealth v10 dream from speaker to power ...

in other words, you heard the difference which the Stealth's Engineer cannot technically explain.this must be something related quantum physics i guess. anyhow, i wish you can do a blind test next time to distinguish them.