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[CAS] Aurender now supports DSD over DoP v1.2

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發表於 2013-12-15 17:25:45 | 顯示全部樓層 |閱讀模式
Just receive a update from Aurender saying that it supports DSD over DoP now. My DAC doesn't support DSD so I can't try out. Maybe some Ching is interested to try try

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發表於 2013-12-15 18:19:22 | 顯示全部樓層
音技 this month says that it KO the transport section of Esoteric K-01 !
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 樓主| 發表於 2013-12-15 18:37:55 | 顯示全部樓層
CKKeung 發表於 2013-12-15 18:19
音技 this month says that it KO the transport section of Esoteric K-01 !

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買本睇下先
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發表於 2013-12-15 18:51:53 | 顯示全部樓層
CKKeung 發表於 2013-12-15 18:19
音技 this month says that it KO the transport section of Esoteric K-01 !

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發表於 2013-12-15 18:53:59 | 顯示全部樓層
Aurender index procedure can imports SACD ISO image, extracts stereo DSD to DSF files and then removed the SACD ISO image.

This saves a lot of space as SACD ISO image may also carry multi-channels DSD content. Plus some of the ISO extract programs are not working properly.


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發表於 2013-12-15 20:56:59 | 顯示全部樓層
that means any mac with this software can rip sacd?
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發表於 2013-12-16 13:41:07 | 顯示全部樓層
CKKeung 發表於 2013-12-15 18:19
音技 this month says that it KO the transport section of Esoteric K-01 !


CKK

Aurender 是否頂級的一款? 這一款規格很不錯。電源更用電池。
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發表於 2013-12-16 13:44:09 | 顯示全部樓層
chowhwk 發表於 2013-12-16 13:41
CKK

Aurender 是否頂級的一款? 這一款規格很不錯。電源更用電池。


Chow翁,
Yes ar.  This is the newest top model.
There is a review of it in 音技 this month.
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發表於 2013-12-16 13:49:34 | 顯示全部樓層
本帖最後由 chowhwk 於 2013-12-16 13:51 編輯
CKKeung 發表於 2013-12-16 13:44
Chow翁,
Yes ar.  This is the newest top model.
There is a review of it in 音技 this month.


CKK,最近聽過一些超寧靜的CAS,印象深刻。
假如電源做得好,數碼傳輸做得好,超越K01, 應該是可以達到的目標。
Aurender 裡面是否還是用一塊PC 的motherboard,還是特別設計?

Aurender 來了,Burmester 也來了。。。。。今年CES 可能有更多新產品。
下手時間到了。
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發表於 2013-12-16 14:11:18 | 顯示全部樓層
chowhwk 發表於 2013-12-16 13:49
CKK,最近聽過一些超寧靜的CAS,印象深刻。
假如電源做得好,數碼傳輸做得好,超越K01, 應該是可以達到 ...

Aurender 就是用Linux OS 呀,和HoLS & 震長相似!

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發表於 2013-12-17 07:53:45 | 顯示全部樓層
Will the Aurender player be able to output DSD via AES/EBU and SPDIF on top of USB ?

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發表於 2013-12-17 08:56:20 | 顯示全部樓層
ccscho 發表於 2013-12-17 07:53
Will the Aurender player be able to output DSD via AES/EBU and SPDIF on top of USB ?

Good question
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發表於 2013-12-17 09:50:09 | 顯示全部樓層
ccscho 發表於 2013-12-17 07:53
Will the Aurender player be able to output DSD via AES/EBU and SPDIF on top of USB ?

ccscho hing,
This function if present, is useful for Mytek, Benchmark DAC2 & MSB IV & IV Plus series because these DACs can accept and decode DSD digital signal via their usual digital inputs (not limited to USB input).
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發表於 2013-12-17 10:15:37 | 顯示全部樓層
Yes, Aurender output DoP DSD through AES/EBU.

Besides the above mentioned DACs, dCS and Bricasti also support DoP on AES/EBU.

One worth mentioning point
When using AES/EBU connection, the Aurender is the master sync source.
When using USB connection, the Async DAC is the master sync source.



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發表於 2013-12-17 10:37:02 | 顯示全部樓層
本帖最後由 tanjongaru 於 2013-12-17 10:40 編輯
kentpoon 發表於 2013-12-17 10:15
Yes, Aurender output DoP DSD through AES/EBU.

Besides the above mentioned DACs, dCS and Bricasti a ...


Kentpoon,

Performance wise, does it mean that it is better to connect thru USB if the DAC has a better clock than Aurender (e.g MSB DAC IV with Femto Clock).  

Thanks
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發表於 2013-12-17 11:40:18 | 顯示全部樓層
That is the fundermental differences on the async USB  vs. normal AES/EBU connection.

It is almost impossible to objectively point out which clock is "better".

In theory, with decent circuit design, the internal clock nearest to the DAC is the best one. This is what I usually suggested since I think my target audience most have decent DACs.

Crystal oscallitor has specifications, but a crystal does not work alone. Its specification and performances can changed dramatically because of the power supply ripple, servo, PCB layout. The oscillator vibrates at very high frequency may affect the analogue amplification section.

Atomic clock is another example. It is super stable that drifts 1sec every 1000years. But it outputs at 10MHz and does not suitable for audio application. It requires PLL to alternate (pull) to suitable frequency range, which is complete changed its specification. This PLL maybe even more important than the atomic itself. If an atomic clock sounds superb, there are 2 reasons. One have been fascinated by the term "atomic" or the unit actually designed very well as a whole, especially on PLL, signal layout and power supply.

Here is a S10 jitter measurement made by HiFi News (UK): http://designwsound.com/dwsblog/2012/04/aurender-s10-jitter/

W20 has a better design (if one would think S10 is still not ideal), and W20 has an external USB to Serial connection device to pair with dCS master clock/units.

We are building a new review archive but you can read some reviews on W20 here:
http://www.squarewaveltd.com/main/review/

With MSB DAC, i think either USB or AES/EBU will sound excellent. If the MSB doesn't accept DoP through AES/EBU, then using USB is quite obvious choice.

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發表於 2013-12-17 15:12:08 | 顯示全部樓層
kentpoon 發表於 2013-12-17 11:40
That is the fundermental differences on the async USB  vs. normal AES/EBU connection.

It is almost ...

Best Buy 2013
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發表於 2014-1-23 12:04:08 | 顯示全部樓層
你去方浪睇下幾多隻Aurender被人訂左(地下起碼5隻),sales話要3,4日先有新貨
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