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發表於 2014-6-4 00:01:56 | 顯示全部樓層 |閱讀模式
今晚同 OBEE 吹開水,傾繄 media converter (optical <> lan),佢介紹咗呢個新玩意。看來類似 Adnaco (optical <> usb,LKS Ben sir 同 OBEE 用緊,http://www.adnaco.com/products/),但簡單好多及易用好多。不過暫時條線只係好似一條 USB 延長線咁,一邊係 Type A 鈛,另一邊係 Type A 乸,最短都要 10米。
http://www.corning.com/opcomm/Op ... l.aspx#.U43n4XKSyVV


Corning 話會今年會出 mini Type B 頭 (即係手機叉電個條USB 咁様),可惜無 Type B。

講到呢到,幾錢? http://www.amazon.com/3-OpticalT ... K/ref=cm_cr_pr_pb_t US109.99 ONLY!!

大家點睇?我「估」點都好過傳統 USB 線掛,就咁睇表面個 idea,應該會好過 medial converter,不過又可唔可以好過 Adnaco?定係出嚟個效果非常差?

如果得既話,咁就方便得多同平好多了!

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發表於 2014-6-4 00:09:31 | 顯示全部樓層
Pls give us a report if you have used it.  Thanks!   
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 樓主| 發表於 2014-6-4 00:20:46 | 顯示全部樓層
本帖最後由 PhantomGTR 於 2014-6-4 00:42 編輯

too bad that amazon doesn't ship this product to HK......

Now I contacted this one, they said they can ship to HK.
http://www.eaccu-tech.com/usb-3-optical-cables/
and I found this in their website, too.  http://www.eaccu-tech.com/blackb ... sb-gender-changers/


But they offer Fedex only, and charging US$103.71.  But about US$20 for UPS local 2nd day delivery. Need help......
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發表於 2014-6-4 01:11:02 | 顯示全部樓層
PhantomGTR 發表於 2014-6-4 00:20
too bad that amazon doesn't ship this product to HK......

Now I contacted this one, they said they  ...

You can use 集運 in USA for buying things at Amazon.  
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 樓主| 發表於 2014-6-4 01:12:23 | 顯示全部樓層
CKKeung 發表於 2014-6-4 01:11
You can use 集運 in USA for buying things at Amazon.

really?  would you please show me how to do so?  I'm sorry that I have no idea about this at all.
Maybe we can gather more interested people to share the courier fee.
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發表於 2014-6-4 01:12:38 | 顯示全部樓層
Converter should be avoided as far as possible.
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發表於 2014-6-4 01:13:43 | 顯示全部樓層
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發表於 2014-6-4 01:14:45 | 顯示全部樓層
I myself have no experience but my frds use such service to buy at Amazon quite often.
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發表於 2014-6-4 01:19:15 | 顯示全部樓層
odysseyhk 好似有類似的產品,唔知有無記錯。
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 樓主| 發表於 2014-6-4 01:23:44 | 顯示全部樓層
CKKeung 發表於 2014-6-4 01:12
Converter should be avoided as far as possible.

Woooh..... would you please elaborate a bit more?  "Converter" means also this Corning product?  Or those "Optical <> Lan"?  Thanks :)
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發表於 2014-6-4 01:25:01 | 顯示全部樓層
PhantomGTR 發表於 2014-6-4 01:23
Woooh..... would you please elaborate a bit more?  "Converter" means also this Corning product?  O ...

I mean the USB Gender Changer 啫。  
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發表於 2014-6-4 01:25:58 | 顯示全部樓層
I have been using Adnaco for nearly 2 yrs.  Effective gar!  
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 樓主| 發表於 2014-6-4 01:27:57 | 顯示全部樓層
colorp 發表於 2014-6-4 01:19
odysseyhk 好似有類似的產品,唔知有無記錯。

Ching, can't find in their web, would you please show me the link?
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 樓主| 發表於 2014-6-4 01:29:53 | 顯示全部樓層
CKKeung 發表於 2014-6-4 01:25
I mean the USB Gender Changer 啫。

I see I see...... the DAC needs that Type B male....... I just wonder will this short gender changer better than my ~1m Blackcat USB cable.
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 樓主| 發表於 2014-6-4 01:31:05 | 顯示全部樓層
CKKeung 發表於 2014-6-4 01:25
I have been using Adnaco for nearly 2 yrs.  Effective gar!

I know arh, yet my Voyage MPD Kit can't take Adnaco and Adnaco costs much more la......
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發表於 2014-6-4 03:22:14 | 顯示全部樓層
本帖最後由 odysseyhk 於 2014-6-4 03:33 編輯
colorp 發表於 2014-6-4 01:19
odysseyhk 好似有類似的產品,唔知有無記錯。


You really have good memory.  Many years ago, we have group purchase of similar product.  So I can share some experience with this type of design architecture.  Of course, now is much higher speed going to USB 3.0 which is great.  

First thing we need to find out is that whether it is a "hybrid optical + copper cable" or "pure optical" cable.  In the old days, that product has both version.  

1/ "hybrid optical + copper cable" does not require power supply on the other end.  i.e. there is 5V DC power connection together with optical transmission of signal.  It seems to me this new Corning cable is this type.  

2/ "pure optical cable" would require the other side to supply a 5V power to the circuit handling the signal transmission.

By reading the product information, it seems to me that this Corning product is "hybrid optical + copper cable" as the other side does not require a power supply.  If that is the case, it is not electrically isolated.   

In the old days, the product I used has both versions and I have chosen "pure optical cable" version and added a battery power supply on the other side.  

While many would think that optical isolation must be better, I think we need to test it to find it out.  The quality of the electrical <-> optical <-> electrical circuit is key.

And if it is "hybrid optical + copper cable" design, the 5V DC power is transmitted on a pair of thin cable over a long distance which is not good due to the cable resistance.   Ching with diy skills may want to open the other end and power it with a high quality 5V DC power supply.  That is probably essential modification needed.

Hope my old experience helps.

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發表於 2014-6-4 08:00:45 | 顯示全部樓層
為何要多件東西,有何好處?
各位師兄,能否說說詳情?
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 樓主| 發表於 2014-6-4 10:51:35 | 顯示全部樓層
本帖最後由 PhantomGTR 於 2014-6-4 11:11 編輯
odysseyhk 發表於 2014-6-4 03:22
You really have good memory.  Many years ago, we have group purchase of similar product.  So I can ...


Thank you very much for your sharing and suggestions, odysseyhk!  That's very very helpful to us.

Even my LKS DAC's USB socket doesn't provide 5V and need 5V DC from the USB cable (Ben sir told me), my new LPS have 2 spare 5V DC outputs to supply.  These 2 5V outputs were supposed for the media converter boxes (optical <> Lan).  Now probably obee suggested me a better solution.  
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發表於 2014-6-4 11:14:30 | 顯示全部樓層
PhantomGTR 發表於 2014-6-4 10:51
Thank you very much for your sharing and suggestions, odysseyhk!  That's very very helpful to us.
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You should cut the 5V at the beginning and provide your own in the end point which close to DAC. The difference is dramatic.
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 樓主| 發表於 2014-6-4 11:28:24 | 顯示全部樓層
obee 發表於 2014-6-4 11:14
You should cut the 5V at the beginning and provide your own in the end point which close to DAC. T ...

Yes, and I'm really thinking about it.  Just wonder will it be too difficult...... to open the female USB terminal
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