MSB data IV CD transport

kkl

1)   MSB data IV CD transport + analogue dac + power base
2)   MSB data IV CD tramnsport + platinum dace iv plus + diamond power base

Just for audio quality, which one is batter  ? Thanks                                

hercules

must be 2 la

CKKeung

must be (2) la xN !

And there is no need to buy a Diamond Powerbase for a Platinum IV Plus dac.
Buying a Platinum Powerbase and a Signature Transport Power Base will give better sonics.

ccscho

Buy the universal transport la.   Then you can play SACD directly and no need to wait for rip even you have bought new SACD or borrow SACD from friends.  

kkl

The advantage of Platinum data IV CD transport is the the drive can be eaily replaced. Can signature CD transport do that ? How about the cost ? Thanks.  

jackt

MSB has the comparison table: http://www.msbtech.com/products/ ... p?Page=platinumHome

The main differences are clocking, output interfaces and drive unit.

blau.vol

Hi kkl hing,  

IF you buy DATA CD IV ,  Please remember to buy ProI2S option for Platinum DAC IV Plus!!!  otherwise ,  your transport CANNOT talk with your DAC IV Plus in MSB protocol !!  

FOr AnalogDAc ,  you can order with MSBNetwork input ....

Cheers!
Blau
VOLENT

kkl

Blau hing
is Pro I2S better than MSB network?

CabbagePatchKid

Blau 兄：

不是 SIGNATURE DATA CD IV 才有 PRO I2S？

DATA CD IV 也可配備？

謝。

blau.vol

CabbagePatchKid hing,

不是,  是DAC IV Plus 加Pro I2S option 先可聯上DATA CD IV via MSB Network 呢......

Blau

CKKeung

kkl 發表於 2014-8-22 15:14
Blau hing
is Pro I2S better than MSB network?

kkl hing,

Both MSB Network and MSB ProI2S are conducting the digital signals & clock signals concurrently and separately via the different channels inside a LANS cable.
The former is the older technology and is one-directional.
The latter is the new version and is bi-directional.

Both are much better than the usual SPDIF digital connections such as coaxial/BNC/AES/toslink.

CKKeung

CabbagePatchKid 發表於 2014-8-22 15:56
Blau 兄：

不是 SIGNATURE DATA CD IV 才有 PRO I2S？

CabbagePackKid hing,

Let me explain in more details :

• Both "MSB Network" and "MSB ProI2S" are proprietary I2S connection formats for connecting transport and dac.
• MSB Platinum Data 4 cd transport and MSB UMT are older models.  They have "MSB Network" output (as a LANS socket) onboard.
• MSB Platinum Data 4 Signature cd transport and MSB UMT Plus and MSB UMT Signature are newer models.  They have "ProI2S" output (as a LANS socket) onboard.
• MSB IV dac (all models) are older generation and can accept only "MSB Network" format.
• MSB IV Plus dac (all models) are new generation and can only accept "ProI2S" format.
• If an user is pairing transport & dac of different generations, he needs to buy a conversion circuit board to install inside the dac so that different generations can communicate.
  

kkl

CKKeung Hing

The picture is now clear. Thanks. How about the audio quality of UMT plus and signature data CD iv

CeLicA

I've compared UMT & Data4 cdt side by side.
They provided diff sound characters,
Umt had better clarity, but data4 has darker background and more musical, both tested by CDs only.
At last Data4 and Dac4+ is my current combo.
Hope the information may help u a bit.

kkl

CK Keung hing
Please give a comment on analogue dac and platinum dac iv plus. (Pros and cons)

CKKeung

kkl 發表於 2014-8-23 07:21
CK Keung hing
Please give a comment on analogue dac and platinum dac iv plus. (Pros and cons)

kkl hing,

The most important difference is that Analog DAC is not true-balanced because it contains only two MSB R2R modules whereas the old MSB IV series and new IV Plus series both contain four R2R modules and are true-balanced.

The IV and IV Plus are more modular and upgradable than the simpler Analog DAC.
They are of higer series than Analog and of course have better sonic performance la.

Please check pm too.

  

CKKeung

CeLicA 發表於 2014-8-23 01:02
I've compared UMT & Data4 cdt side by side.
They provided diff sound characters,
Umt had better clar ...

CeLicA hing is totally correct :

• UMT is so convenient and can play all discs/all formats and give excellent video playback too.
• Data4 & Data4 Signature are "single-minded' and can play CD only so the sonics is better for sure.
• The new UMT Plus and UMT Signature try to catch up by providing an additional DC input socket.  Owners can improve both the audio and video performance by giving separate powersupplies to the audio and video circuits.  The only pitfall is of course the extra $ for this upgrade.
  

jackt

I am the owner of Analog DAC and UMT+. I haven't compare them with another MSB products. But, I have some comments on these products.

The Analog DAC is a perfect DAC for CAS provided you don't need other input interfaces but only USB. It almost has the highest price performance ratio in the market. But it is not a DAC like you want to make it upgradable. It's just a product you want without upgrade option concerned. I do like the performance of the Analog DAC.

The UMT+ is a universal transport that means you can play any media format in one box. If you just want to play CD only, there is a better choice with another product. Sometimes I think it is an over price product for playing CD. But if you have other media, such as SACD, Blu-ray Audio, I think you cannot find another product in the market as good as the UMT+. I do think it is over price, but when I play SACD I think it can satisfy what I want.

It's just my 2 cents.

CabbagePatchKid

多謝 Blau、CKKeung 及其他師兄。

其實 Data IV CD Transport 有無師兄玩過換 DVD Drive？有無分別？

blau.vol

Hi CabbagePatchKid hing,

Yes, You may try to change the ROM drive,  it got different sonic character!!  My friend tried Pioneer and tell me got good sound.  but i don't know did he compare the drive wtih Plextor or not.  

Cheers!
Blau