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[分享] 開箱 : Wilson Benesch Vector + Report

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發表於 2013-4-12 19:59:12 | 顯示全部樓層 |閱讀模式
本帖最後由 u750394 於 2013-4-12 20:01 編輯

feellikecyber C-Hing's article encourages me to complete WB Vector 開箱 report tonight. Similarly, I would not answer any question related to price ( including PM )

I seldom replace equipment. My WB Orator and CJ MV55 served me for more than 10 years, they are very nice and reliable.  As time goes, some minor issues appear. I think it  may due to the high Humidity of HK weather.

Since last year, I start to thinking about upgrading the speaker .  During a phone discussion with WB dealer to explore the possibility to upgrade the Orator by replacing  it’s Bass units,  dealer suggested that upgrading to Vector shall deliver the best C/P value.

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Before going to dealer to listen Vector, I did some research and visited some HiFi shops. To my surprise, I cannot find any Shop in HK selling  middle range WB floor standing loudspeaker . I cannot find WB Vector in HK. Some Shops in MongKok suggested me to try WB Discovery and showed me the price list. However, I cannot find Vector in their price list.  I then check 淘寶, I can find WB Curve /  Discovery and others, I still cannot find Vector .  I found some review article at internet.  Some C-hing in <hiendy> provided valuable comments. Advices from Carl and Luke of Wilson Benesch also useful. All review articles are very positive on Vector’s performance.  WB is a low profile company and did not spent much money on marketing. And the market position of Vector is embarrassing, the speaker is high quality and the price is in relative middle range.  HiFi market is diminishing, Customers are divided into two groups. People either buy more affordable OR more experience speaker.

Come with 4 speaker jumpers
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Finally, I visit the dealer’s show room to listen Vector  on a Saturday near Christmas so as to take the advantage of Christmas Sales. When I arrived the showroom, there are two very expensive setup near-by . :- Einstein OTL, Wilson Benesch Chimera . Another one is Audio Note 300B …. Vector is installed in a corner of the room and connected to a ROKSAN solid state integrated amp + ROKSAN CD.  Vector’s physical size is very compact and is smaller than Orator .

1吋軟膜高音 + 7吋中/低音 + 7吋低音
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The sound is just OK, Nevertheless, I recalled that 12 years ago when I met Orator in a HK Shop. The shop connected Orator to a Solid state amp, the sound was terrible. Then , the shop connected Orator to a Golden-Tube SE-40 value amp,  Orator sounded great. So, I believe Vector is Great when I connect it to a tube amp. As Vector has two  Tactic II Bass units, It delivers much better bass than Orator.

After waiting for months, Vector was delivered to Home at the same day that CJ Lp125sa+ arrived. These two stuffs are too heavy and take me a lot of time to unbox them and setup them up.  CJ needs 30 minutes warm up before setup the initial bias. After setting up CJ bias, I listen the CD.  Initially, the sound is rather “Thin” . So I connect the setup to TV for run-in

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Although Vector is more compact than Orator, after around 20 hours run-in,  the lp125sa+ + Vector  KO  MV55 + Orator. There are more solid base, more transparent, more natural  and more detail.  I am personally very impressed by the new CJ and Vector combination.

I then check the WB manual and try to find out how-much time is needed for run-in. WB manual said the Vector needs around 70 hours for run-in. However, CJ manual did not mention anything about the run-in time. I send email to CJ for advice.  I am very pleased to learn that Dr. Lew Johnson ( who is the founder of CJ ) replied my email. He said “The Teflon capacitors in your LP125sa+ will take on the order of 200 to 300 hours to fully run-in though this effect is not as dramatic on the power amplifiers as it is on the preamps.… “.  As I may only able to allocate around 5 - 6  hrs. per week on HiFi, which means it will take around 1 year for CJ fully run-in ……  

Even the setup did not fully run-in … the sound already very lovely …

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發表於 2013-4-12 20:24:51 | 顯示全部樓層
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發表於 2013-4-12 20:28:56 | 顯示全部樓層
本帖最後由 nagramen 於 2013-4-12 20:44 編輯

C-hing, I used CJ amps and Wilson Benesch speakers before. They are both excellent gears.  Congratulations!!!

I wish to advise that you must consider to replace the speaker jumper cables that came with the WB speakers because those jumpers were no good for me.  Any jumpers happened to be better the stock jumpers from WB! As bad as that! Don't waste your ~HK$100K speakers

Besides, using the original spikes plus a set of decent bases (釘墊) such as Isoclean T009 would make a huge difference to the sonic improvement of the speakers (need to experiment tough)! Enjoy!
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發表於 2013-4-12 20:32:47 | 顯示全部樓層
本帖最後由 nagramen 於 2013-4-12 20:43 編輯

恕我多言, pulling out the speakers 2 feet from the back wall will improve soundstage by a very big margin. Try, try (no extra costs)!
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發表於 2013-4-12 21:30:36 | 顯示全部樓層
師兄!
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發表於 2013-4-12 21:43:50 | 顯示全部樓層
Hi CHing, it's my honour to inspire all of the well-experienced expert here like you. So grateful for me have chance to enjoy your post here yeah
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發表於 2013-4-13 00:12:07 | 顯示全部樓層
nagramen 發表於 2013-4-12 20:28
C-hing, I used CJ amps and Wilson Benesch speakers before. They are both excellent gears.  Congratul ...

Agree. I tried Audio Note Sogon jumpers on WB speakers. Worked materially better than the original pair.
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 樓主| 發表於 2013-4-13 07:45:01 | 顯示全部樓層
eddiey4k 發表於 2013-4-13 00:12
Agree. I tried Audio Note Sogon jumpers on WB speakers. Worked materially better than the original ...

Thanks eddiey4k C-Hing.
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 樓主| 發表於 2013-4-13 07:47:31 | 顯示全部樓層
nagramen 發表於 2013-4-12 20:32
恕我多言, pulling out the speakers 2 feet from the back wall will improve soundstage by a very big m ...

Hi nagramen,   Thanks very much for your advice. will try later ...

Thanks.
Best Regards
Sam
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 樓主| 發表於 2013-4-13 07:50:35 | 顯示全部樓層
simontong 發表於 2013-4-12 21:30
師兄!

Thanks Simon,

Cheers
Sam
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發表於 2013-4-13 08:44:24 | 顯示全部樓層
Very good gear and high value speaker ..........

恭喜,恭喜。
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 樓主| 發表於 2013-4-13 08:56:32 | 顯示全部樓層
feellikecyber 發表於 2013-4-12 21:43
Hi CHing, it's my honour to inspire all of the well-experienced expert here like you. So grateful fo ...

Thanks feellikecyber C-Hing
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發表於 2013-4-13 10:37:57 | 顯示全部樓層
u750394 發表於 2013-4-13 07:50
Thanks Simon,

Cheers


睇o黎師兄下一個升級目標都係CD機,如果鍾意英國聲底,小弟推薦英國AMR o既CD機,想C/P值高 o既就CD-777,想一步到位當然係CD-77啦!包保兩部機都唔會令你失望 ,有時間去中環聲望聽翻轉啦!
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發表於 2013-4-13 10:46:46 | 顯示全部樓層
師兄部CJ如果煲好一定好正 而且你又係新喇叭,WB夾胆機一流,有時煲機都係一種樂趣,可以聽到D聲的變化,一天比一天好,到聲音穩定及完全進入狀態的時候,那種喜悅是難以形容的!
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 樓主| 發表於 2013-4-13 10:48:37 | 顯示全部樓層
simontong 發表於 2013-4-13 10:37
睇o黎師兄下一個升級目標都係CD機,如果鍾意英國聲底,小弟推薦英國AMR o既CD機,想C/P值高 o既就CD-777 ...

Dear Simon, You are right, My 506.20 serves me more than 10 years and may need to upgrade soon. Unfortunately, I am running out of budget now. Need some time to save some money first .... I may try to visit 聲望 later ... Anyway, thanks your suggestion ....
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發表於 2013-4-13 12:06:22 | 顯示全部樓層
u750394 發表於 2013-4-13 07:45
Thanks eddiey4k C-Hing.

Also tried Golden Oval but found too much bass. Similar prices as Sogon.
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發表於 2013-4-13 12:31:29 | 顯示全部樓層
恭喜
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發表於 2013-4-13 14:56:11 | 顯示全部樓層
ching,  小弟身為 WB 用家, 見到有WB開箱文,  非常持支.....
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發表於 2013-4-14 21:41:57 | 顯示全部樓層
終於見到有師兄買WB 的新系列喇叭了!
恭喜恭喜!
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發表於 2018-6-28 00:35:01 | 顯示全部樓層
師兄依家用緊咩推vector?
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