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[CAS] [AV / HiFi] New Linn DSM vs Linn DS

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發表於 2011-10-13 11:07:51 | 顯示全部樓層
LINN DSM 我頭開仲以為係佢可以STREAMING到VIDEO FORMAT嘅FILE添...
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發表於 2011-10-13 11:38:47 | 顯示全部樓層
No.

DS and DSM will be developed con-currently to different group of users. ...
raywan 發表於 2011-10-13 11:02


I know that Linn has presented Linn DS information under "Buying Linn -> Product Information -> Linn DS".  But why they don't put it under "Our System -> Linn DS"?

This action will distract the consumer that only Linn DSM is available and Linn DS will also be sold concurrently but not in high profile.
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 樓主| 發表於 2011-10-13 11:40:09 | 顯示全部樓層
本帖最後由 raywan 於 2011-10-13 11:47 編輯
佢個"media"唔係正常人理解咁lor
eosteven 發表於 2011-10-13 11:04


M =/= Media

DSM --> M = Music / Movies & TV / Mobile / Multi-source / Multi-room / Multi-user /



Decoding vs. Rendering

Modern surround formats such as Dolby True-HD and DTS-HD MA are capable of lossless high-resolution audio, but the performance of these formats is ultimately limited by the quality of the rendering process (i.e. the way digital data is converted into an analog signal).

The actual decoding algorithm is unimportant (a lossless decoder is just that) so the DSM offloads the decoding process to the Bluray player. This has the advantage of removing a potentially noisy and power hungry process which may otherwise have an adverse effect on the delicate analog audio signal.

The DSM focuses instead on being an audio renderer, converting each audio sample in the HDMI stream with the highest possible accuracy. Timing accuracy is achieved by using a unique two-stage clock recovery process, and amplitude accuracy is achieved by employing the same low distortion conversion circuitry as DS.




Decoding : Dolby True-HD / DTS-HD MA --> Digital Signal (Noisy Operation)

Rendering : Digital Signal --> Analog Signal (DAC) - Timing & Amplitude Accuracy



The decoding task is straight forward but noisy which is moved away from DSM.

However, the sound quality is always depending on the DAC convertion and handling power / precision.

This is the most important part (DAC) that Linn DSM working on to ensure high quality sound output.

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 樓主| 發表於 2011-10-13 11:43:04 | 顯示全部樓層
I know that Linn has presented Linn DS information under "Buying Linn -> Product Information -> Li ...
史的墳 發表於 2011-10-13 11:38


No.

You can refer to the all product page --> DS / LP / Amp / Preamp / Speaker ... ....

http://www.linn.co.uk/buying/products



The New Product is DSM so they put it in the front page to attract more attention for promotion of product launching.

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發表於 2011-10-13 11:44:12 | 顯示全部樓層
I know that Linn has presented Linn DS information under "Buying Linn -> Product Information -> Li ...
史的墳 發表於 2011-10-13 11:38



    正常呀,有部加強版有digital input,其他功能一樣, 無乜必要買無digital input個部, 除非差好遠價錢
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發表於 2011-10-13 11:48:01 | 顯示全部樓層
DSM --> M = Multi-Source


Decoding : Dolby True-HD / ...
raywan 發表於 2011-10-13 11:40


不過係2ch呢
我要食牛肉,你將佢變成豬肉, 幾好食都無用
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 樓主| 發表於 2011-10-13 11:53:25 | 顯示全部樓層
正常呀,有部加強版有digital input,其他功能一樣, 無乜必要買無digital input個部, 除非差好遠價錢 ...
eosteven 發表於 2011-10-13 11:44




AV Amp 亦較 AV Processor 更多功能

要方便 --> AV Amp

要質素 --> AV Processor



同樣 DSM 亦較 DS 更多功能

要方便 --> DSM

要質素 --> DS



有時多功能未必是最好

CDP vs (CDT + DAC)

Integrated Amp vs (Preamp + Power Amp)

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 樓主| 發表於 2011-10-13 11:57:21 | 顯示全部樓層
不過係2ch呢
我要食牛肉,你將佢變成豬肉, 幾好食都無用
eosteven 發表於 2011-10-13 11:48


所以 DS 啱你

DSM 不合你用



只是多個產品供用家選擇而已

已清楚指出 DSM 並非完全取代 DS 的

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發表於 2011-10-13 16:34:37 | 顯示全部樓層
No.

You can refer to the all product page --> DS / LP / Amp / Preamp / Speaker ... ....



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raywan 發表於 2011-10-13 11:43


如果咁樣 Linn 個 marketing 都做得幾差........
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發表於 2011-10-13 16:39:04 | 顯示全部樓層
AV Amp 亦較 AV Processor 更多功能

要方便 --> AV Amp

要質素 --> AV Processo ...
raywan 發表於 2011-10-13 11:53


你呢個 assumption 要睇埋個 DSM 測試報告先可以結論。

但我可以推測得到 DSM 推出後現在的 DS 價好難企得穩,除非好似 Raymond 你咁分得開,但一般朋友一定分唔開。

但只要自己 LIKE,二手個價幾多都冇問題!
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發表於 2011-10-14 09:18:58 | 顯示全部樓層
本帖最後由 lei_ieong 於 2011-10-14 10:59 編輯

Linn 尼排動作多多。。。雖然研發新產品系好事,但係步伐不應太快,特別是產品的市場定位,renewds已經使akurate的市場受到衝擊,依家再推出DSM系列,如果再使市場混淆,衝擊DS系列ge產品,令產品貶值,便得不償失。而且會損失一批老客戶的信心,因爲產品保值的程度亦是信心的重要一環,保持產品推出的周期,是一個成熟marketing的重要一環。。。可以使銷售最大化,但是周期過短,就會使市場消化不良,就好似日本仔geAV擴音機,其實每次更新都不大,技術含量也不高,但係就維持1年左右才推出一個新的版本,就是這個道理。

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發表於 2011-10-14 10:46:55 | 顯示全部樓層
Linn 尼排動作多多。。。雖然研發新產品系好事,但係步伐不應太快,特別是產品的市場定位,renewds已經使ak ...
lei_ieong 發表於 2011-10-14 09:18


DS 系列出得太密na ~
好似日本仔咁係咁出新model 搶錢
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